[Biblemat] Questions & Answers - Death, Cremation, the bodily change at the resurrectio
GLClair at aol.com
GLClair at aol.com
Tue Aug 7 18:00:49 CDT 2007
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
In a message dated 8/7/2007 9:32:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Mr. Fisher
writes:
1. Could you explain the 3 heavens and what it means and which would we go
to??
2. When we are raised to be saved,are we raised with flesh and changed to
spirit.
3. Fisher is concerned with cremation, if it is ok to do. That is what Ken
did.
ANSWERS IN ORDER:
1. Could you explain the 3 heavens and what it means and which would we
go to?
2 Corinthians 12:2, "I know a man in Christ, fourteen years ago (whether in
the body, I know not; or whether out of the body, I know not; God knoweth),
such a one caught up even to the third heaven." ASV
Comment FROM THE PEOPLE'S NEW TESTAMENT:
"2 Cor 12 verse 2. I know (not knew) a man above fourteen years ago. He
knows the man and could name him, since the man was himself. See _verse 7_
(http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=2Co 12:7) . Above fourteen years ago this
man was caught up, etc. This letter was written A.D. 57. The being caught up
was then in A.D. 43. This is about the time that Paul was at Antioch with
Barnabas, or at Tarsus (_Acts 9:29, 30_
(http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Ac 9:29) ). It could not have been at conversion, for that was about twenty
years earlier than A.D. 57, nor could it be the trance in the temple (_Acts
22:17_ (http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Ac 22:17) ) for that was too
late. Whether in the body or, etc. A person could then be caught up, see and
hear, without his body, in Paul's view. Hence the human spirit is not material.
The third heaven, is a Jewish expression for that heaven which was beyond
(1) the air, and (2) beyond the sun and stars; the secret place of the
Almighty. 3. I know such a man. Why does he not use the first person? Because it
would seem more like he was glorying in his own exaltation. 4. He was caught up
into Paradise. Paradise and “the third heaven” evidently mean the same. The
term applied to a blessed abode beyond the life in _Luke 23:43_
(http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Lu 23:43) and _Rev 2:7_
(http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=Rev+2:7) . Heard unspeakable words. Words that would be
neither right nor possible to reveal in human speech. 5. Of such an one will I
glory. One so favored had ground for boasting, but of himself personally he
will not glory, save in his infirmities. See note on _11:30_
(http://www.crossbooks.com/verse.asp?ref=2Co+11:30) . While he glories of such an one, if he
glories of himself it will be in his weaknesses." {From The People's New
Testament}.
2. When we are raised to be saved,are we raised with flesh and changed to
spirit.
THE RESURRECTION OF EVERYONE IS A FACT:
It does not matter whatever happens to the human body after death,
The Lord will call everyone who has ever died from what ever cause to come
forth from the grave at the trumpet [i.e. resurrection day - "THE LAST DAY"] of
God. The body will decay into dust after 100s of years in the ground, what is
the difference in one pile of dust and another pile of dust, God knows where
the dust is.
1 Cor 15:52-54,
"52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put
on immortality.
54 But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal
shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is
written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
ASV
Philippians 3:20-21,
"20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the
Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body , that it may be fashioned like unto his
glorious body , according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all
things unto himself." KJV
1 Corinthians 15:35-58,
"35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do
they come?
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but
bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his
own body .
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men,
another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of
the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another
glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is
raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it
is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body ; it is raised a spiritual body . There is a
natural body , and there is a spiritual body .
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last
Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural;
and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from
heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the
heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the
image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be
changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the
trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put
on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal
shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that
is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus
Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmovable, always
abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in
vain in the Lord." KJV
1 Cor 15:16-24 (NKJV), "16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not
risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in
your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most
pitiable.
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the first fruits of
those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also
came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in
Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the first
fruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. 24 Then comes the
end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to
all rule and all authority and power." (NKJV)
3. Fisher is concerned with cremation, if it is ok to do. That is what
Ken did.
Cremation is a simple hastening of turning the physical body to dust after
death.
Once a person if buried they begin immediately to decay [i.e. turn back to
dust].
The Bible says clearly that whenever physical death occurs the spirit goes
to God and the body [i.e. physical] goes back to dust ---
SEE;
Ecclesiastes 12:6-7,
"6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the
pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern [i.e.
describing death].
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall
return unto God who gave it." KJV
Ecclesiastes 3:19-21,
"19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one
thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all
one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the
beast that goeth downward to the earth?" KJV
Ecclesiastes 12:7,
"7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall
return unto God who gave it." KJV
FINAL NOTE DEAR FRIENDS:
Hope this helps in understanding death, and events at the resurrection.
In Our Master's Service
Garreth Clair
_glclair at aol.com_ (mailto:glclair at aol.com)
considermagazine.com
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